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Mittwoch, 1. März 2006, 13:05

Right-hand-drive GC8 from england/japan

Hi everyone,

Being keen on GC8 imprezas I'm thinking on importing a car from japan/england. However, as I can imagine, some problems may appear, like customs, registration, insurance. If somebody has already imported a car from these countries, would you be so kind to put some general guidelines or "tight points" for me.
Sorry for writing in english, but my german is too far from perfect. That's actually a reason why I ask you, otherwise I could probably find some info in german.

Thank a lot in advance,
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Mittwoch, 1. März 2006, 14:24

Zu deutsch (translation):

Hallo zusammen

Da ich auf die GC8 Imprezas stehe, denke ich darüber nach, ein Auto aus Japan oder England zu importieren. Wie auch immer, ich könnte mir vorstellen, dass dabei einige Probleme auftreten. Customs (Ist glaube so eine Art Sonder-Zoll), Zulassung, Versicherung.
Falls jemand schon ein Auto aus diesen Ländern importiert hat, wäre er vielleicht so freundlich mir ein paar Richtlinien oder Anhaltspunkte zu geben.
Tut mir leid, dass ich auf englisch schreibe, aber mein deutsch ist beschissen.(frei übersetzt) Darum frage ich auch hier, weil ich sonst nur Informationen auf deutsch finden würde.

Vielen Dank im Voraus
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Mittwoch, 1. März 2006, 14:30

Thanks a lot, CarstenB!

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Mittwoch, 1. März 2006, 15:30

Hi Sergey,

I’ve imported a Toyota Surf (in Europe it’s known as 4Runner)from Japan to the UK and a "HONDA CB 400 Super Four" from Japan to Germany. It was no problem at all, since the car was already existing on the UK market. However the Motorbike was a bit of a problem, since it was not sold on the German market by HONDA.
Hence if your GC8 is/was available on the German market, you shouldn’t have any problems getting it registered and insured in Germany. You might have to change the headlights, since they are designed for right hand drive, but that should be all.
If no one else has imported, or registered the GC8 to Germany jet you might have to get a permission from the TÜV a.k.a. MOT.
I had to pay 300€ to the owner of a motorbike shop who had the permission from the TÜV, to use it. Unless you find someone who has got the permission,
you’d have to get it from the TÜV and they will charge you round about 4000€
for a thing called "Einzelabnahme".

If you have any further questions or open points, feel free to ask



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Mittwoch, 1. März 2006, 16:16

Hey MC_SUBI,

First, thanks a lot for your help!
Looks like in principle it's possible to register a right-hand-drive car here in Germany. That's good.
As for TUV I'm afraid I didn't get it real clear. Classic imprezas, that have ever been sold here in germany, were only 4/5-door GTs. This means, that if I would like to import a 2-door coupe (say GC8G2DD) or even 4/5-door WRX STI (say GC8G4ED), I should find somebody who has already imported and registered this <u>particular</u> models, to avoid spending of 4000euro for TUV. Is that right? In this case, was your Toyota Surf of absolut identical spec to the well known here 4Runner?

Thanks again,
Sergey


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Mittwoch, 1. März 2006, 18:43

Hi Sergey,

well since they haven’t been sold here in Germany as you say, you might still have the chance that SUBARU-Germany might be able to provide you with the necessary facts about the car. This would include things like dB results, Brake Stop Distance, Max Speed, Fuel Consumption, CO(g/km), HC(g/km), NOx(g/km) and so on.
If however the model you would like to import was sold somewhere else in the EU, it would be possible to manage without all that trouble.
For instance, if the GC8 was registered in the UK before you import it to Germany, it would be much easier to get things going
(Within the UK it’s far less hassle to register the Imports. The only hard bit is getting it insured in the UK. Since insurance companies in the UK don’t like imported cars.)
The spec was almost the same: 3000cm² 156HP 480N/M
But I had to get rid of the mirror on the front of the hood which is standard in Japan to help the Driver park the car, but not in Europe.
Well the guy at the MOT reminded me or should I say ordered me to remove it but after I left the MOT it never disappeared from the car and nobody in England gave a ****. Sometimes I wish it was that easy in Germany.
These fellows from the TÜV in Germany can really make your life a living hell, if you dare do something out of the ordinary.

Let me know how you decide concerning the import.

Keep in touch
Dustin


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Donnerstag, 2. März 2006, 08:49

As far as I know there is some kind of "european homologation sheet"- don´t ask me about the official name- wich should make it relatively easy to register the car. In Austria you get it from the general-import company. It should exist for all (GB models too) cars homologated in Europe. I believe there could be certain Sti models as well as oher "exotic" models only available in GB and provides information on exhaust fumes, loudness etc. This might make the registry and typing of the car cheaper and easier. At least in Austria it should work that way.

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Donnerstag, 2. März 2006, 11:16

Pedroso:

The sheet is called CoC (Certificate of Conformity). Usually it tells you that the car you want to register is conform with EU homologation law (means: tests already approved by official quarters). I do not believe that there's existing a CoC for a two door GC8G2DD

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Donnerstag, 2. März 2006, 11:45

Hi Sergey,

I think I found a 2 door Impreza in the UK

http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/WWW/CARS_popup.asp?
[IMG]http://pictures.autotrader.co.uk/ATD_web/servlet/media?id=280511935[/IMG]

http://www.compucars.co.uk/vehicle-detai…Page=1&ID=25471




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Donnerstag, 2. März 2006, 18:05

Hey pals,
Thanks a lot for the comments. Today I've been to a local subaru-handler to check my car and asked him about this importing issue. He confirmed more or less, that with UK car it should be less problems since it has this UK CoC. It's still not clear if UK CoC is equial to a German one, though... The best thing was, that he also promised to ask a TUV guy about all this stuff. So it's becoming more and more clear. I'll post the results, if there are any.

To MC_SUBI: Thanks for a nice search you've done - a real beauty you've found. The only thing, that surprizes me all the time is how much do people drive in England. It's hardly possible to find a car with less than 50K miles on the odometer. Not comparable to japan. But with JDM cars it looks to be a pain in the ass to import. Well, will see.


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Donnerstag, 2. März 2006, 20:50

Hi Sergey,

well your right the cars in Japan have a lot less miles and due to the weather, the corrosion factor is way lower. People in Japan drive a lot less, cause they work all week (from Mo. morning till Sa. evening) so the only chance to go for a spin is on Sunday. Since everybody drives on Sunday there’re always traffic jams on the motorways, therefore they don’t get very far
Plus public transport in Japan is way better than in Europe (especially compared to the UK)
One more point is that people in Japan usually buy a new car every three years,
that’s why I would import a car from Japan to the UK get it registered and then bring it to Germany. You get a lot more value for money if you buy them in Japan.
After all they’ve got a 60 mile speed limit over there. So they can’t push the cars to the max and spoil them.
If you can’t import them yourself, you could ask import dealers in the UK who buy them just the way you want.
The only reason why I brought the Toyota and the Honda by myself, is cause I lived in Tokyo and didn’t want to sell them in Japan. As you know, cars sell cheep in Japan and I got a lot more for the two of them in London an Munich



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